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Re: COAL'S ARTISAN PIZZA "LOUISVILLE'S FIRST"

by Mark R. » Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:19 pm

Heather Y wrote:As far as burning coal..... hmmmm. I wondered how much coal burning you have to do to take serious issue with it?

Along this same line I wonder if they have to get a permit from the air pollution control district for this oven? They seem to put their nose into everything else recently.
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The oven has arrived

by David R. Pierce » Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:59 pm

From Face Book: Video of the unloading and insertion through a small door.
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Re: COAL'S ARTISAN PIZZA "LOUISVILLE'S FIRST"

by Gary Guss » Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:05 pm

Bituminous or Anthracite thats the question !
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Re: COAL'S ARTISAN PIZZA "LOUISVILLE'S FIRST"

by Mark Peters » Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:39 pm

hello to the forum. My name is Mark Peters and we're thrilled to have the oven through that door!
to answer several recent questions about the fuel source: We will be burning anthracite coal. It comes from Pennsylvania. The permits required are the same for wood-burning ovens. It is considered a "solid fuel source" and inspected/permitted the same as wood.
The Reading Company will be supplying the coal in 40lb bags. We had many questions about coal as a fuel source. When I was at Tony Gemingnani's Pizza School in San Francisco, he was going through the process of getting permits from the city of SF for his new coal oven. He got them while I was there so we kinda figured that if they could get it done in SF, Lousiville should work as well.
We've been told that the anthracite burns with fewer particulate emissions than wood, but I have not yet received empirical data to support that.
Still; it burns beautifully and super-hot. Can't wait to cure the oven and start playing with our dough.o
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Re: COAL'S ARTISAN PIZZA "LOUISVILLE'S FIRST"

by David R. Pierce » Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:41 pm

Mark Peters wrote:. Can't wait to cure the oven and start playing with our dough.o

We can't wait either!
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Re: COAL'S ARTISAN PIZZA "LOUISVILLE'S FIRST"

by Gary Guss » Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:03 pm

Throw a little Coke in there and some air and you can make steel..
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Re: COAL'S ARTISAN PIZZA "LOUISVILLE'S FIRST"

by Caroline K » Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:03 am

Where exactly will the restaurant be? We went walking around the Vogue yesterday and could not figure out where? Thanks!!
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Re: COAL'S ARTISAN PIZZA "LOUISVILLE'S FIRST"

by David R. Pierce » Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:48 am

Caroline K wrote:Where exactly will the restaurant be? We went walking around the Vogue yesterday and could not figure out where? Thanks!!

I think the store that previously occupied the space was call Sustain. The old signs were up a week ago. While facing the Vogue sign, it would be the right hand rear (NE) corner.
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Re: COAL'S ARTISAN PIZZA "LOUISVILLE'S FIRST"

by Gary Guss » Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:13 pm

I'll be in there to get some NYC style thin crust, should be nice and crispy with that 7oo degree oven
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Re: COAL'S ARTISAN PIZZA "LOUISVILLE'S FIRST"

by Susanne Smith » Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:05 pm

We burned that coal in our old house down in Butchertown and I couldn't believe the heat it generated. The difference between wood and coal is amazing. Good luck in the new venture. We live right by there and look forward to trying it out. Bill and Susi.
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Re: COAL'S ARTISAN PIZZA "LOUISVILLE'S FIRST"

by Madeline Peters » Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:55 am

Susanne Smith wrote:We burned that coal in our old house down in Butchertown and I couldn't believe the heat it generated. The difference between wood and coal is amazing. Good luck in the new venture. We live right by there and look forward to trying it out. Bill and Susi.


Wow..do many of the older homes in Louisville still heat with coal? How did you ignite it? We have to use mesquite to raise the temperature to 600 before the anthracite coal will even burn.
Coal is an interesting heat source in that it is conductive rather than radiant. If you take our oven and used wood as a heat source the temp would be higher towards the flame and cooler the farther out you went. Coal will heat the whole oven. There are no hot or cold spots.

Thank you for your kind words. We have heard great things about the Shady Lane Cafe and look forward to meeting you and the poet Bill!
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Re: COAL'S ARTISAN PIZZA "LOUISVILLE'S FIRST"

by Jeffrey D. » Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:56 pm

Char me -- big time.

And anchovies . . . lots of anchovies.
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Re: COAL'S ARTISAN PIZZA "LOUISVILLE'S FIRST"

by Roger A. Baylor » Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:52 pm

Once upon a time I was in attendance at the Great American Beer Festival, and while I cannot remember the name of the brewery, the beer's monicker was unforgettable: Anthracite Porter.

Hmm, I thought -- nice imagery; black coal, black ale ... sounds like fun.

I asked for a sample. Unfortunately, it tasted rather more like coal-flavored beer than Porter. In fact, it was fairly wretched, perhaps second only to Pyongyang Beer from North Korea in my accounting of truly awful commercial beers swallowed in my lifetime.

My advice: By all means, bake pizza with it, but please don't commission a beer by that name. The flashbacks have never really ceased. :D
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Re: COAL'S ARTISAN PIZZA "LOUISVILLE'S FIRST"

by Steve A » Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:22 pm

Caroline K wrote:Where exactly will the restaurant be? We went walking around the Vogue yesterday and could not figure out where? Thanks!!

We were out at Cooking at the Cottage yesterday (wonderful shop, by the way). The Coal's Artisan Pizza is (or will be) pretty much across from there and towards Lexington.
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Re: COAL'S ARTISAN PIZZA "LOUISVILLE'S FIRST"

by Dan Thomas » Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:33 am

I'm really looking forward to the opening of Coal's now that I have met the people who are inspired enough to open an establishment like this. After meeting and talking to Mark and Madeline at the potluck, I was quite impressed with their knowledge of pizza and their desire to put out a superior product. The oven they bought really is one of a kind. I wish them many years of great success. :D
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