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Seriously bad news for a Louisville Restaurant

by TP Lowe » Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:17 pm

Fox and Hound parent files for bankruptcy (has anyone ever been to F&H?):

http://www.bizjournals.com/louisville/b ... files.html
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Re: Seriouely bad news for a Louisville Restaurant

by Mark R. » Tue Dec 17, 2013 1:44 pm

Someone here closed several years ago and was replaced by another restaurant called Champps which also closed a couple of months ago. I believe they were both owned by the same parent company.
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Re: Seriouely bad news for a Louisville Restaurant

by TP Lowe » Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:12 pm

Mark R. wrote:Someone here closed several years ago and was replaced by another restaurant called Champps which also closed a couple of months ago. I believe they were both owned by the same parent company.


Ah - didn't know they had both closed. Champps was also owned by the same parent company.
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Re: Seriouely bad news for a Louisville Restaurant

by Steve P » Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:27 pm

Champps -started- as a local "chain" in the Minneapolis area and I've spent many hours bellied up to the bar at the "original"....During the time it was (to one degree or another) still local and mostly independent it was an -awesome- place. By the time they came here they were corporate and just another link in a long chain...and while I personally still enjoyed their food (and beverage) that foul location over by Oxmoor Maul quickly did in that little experiment. Too bad, like I say, they -used- to be a great place to dine.
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Re: Seriouely bad news for a Louisville Restaurant

by Bryan Shepherd » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:07 pm

I used to travel to Memphis several years ago and went to the Fox and Hound in Cordova quite a bit to watch games....I found the grub to be more than adequate. The only issue I ever had was all of the Tennessee orange in that place. When they opened here in St Matthews I was expecting something similar, but the food was about 3 notches below what I remember in Cordova.
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Re: Seriouely bad news for a Louisville Restaurant

by MarieP » Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:27 pm

I never went to Fox and Hound, but I seem to recall it was thought to be sub-par.
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Re: Seriouely bad news for a Louisville Restaurant

by Willie Myers » Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:02 pm

TP Lowe wrote:Fox and Hound parent files for bankruptcy (has anyone ever been to F&H?)
being *great* fans of pubs, my (British) wife and I tried Fox & Hounds early during it's operation. It was more of a feeble attempt at a British pub than "Tilted Kilt" was a feeble attempt at a Scottish pub! (If that's possible!) No loss to Louie to see both of them gone...
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Re: Seriouely bad news for a Louisville Restaurant

by Adam C » Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:51 pm

I went once to watch a pay per view event, paid the admission, then they couldn't acquire the satellite feed. Never went back. They did refund our money but it was a huge letdown.
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Re: Seriously bad news for a Louisville Restaurant

by RonnieD » Thu Dec 19, 2013 1:11 pm

No surprise that these watered down "pubs" never last very long. You cannot pre-fab manufacture the pub vibe and atmosphere. Neighborhoods make pubs. Dropping one out of a box in the middle of the local commercial district is rarely going to work. Pubs are organically grown not hot house commodities.
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Re: Seriously bad news for a Louisville Restaurant

by Andrew Mellman » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:05 pm

Think I replied to an earlier post about Chammps closing, but we liked them both.

Fox & Hound had a top-line Dixie smoker in the kitchen, and a cook/chef who knew his way around BBQ. Unfortunately, they never once promoted this, and you had to truly search to find the Q items on the menu. Towards the end, they began to be out of BBQ items (only turned on the smoker irregularly), and in other markets diminished the entire menu to a dozen bar-type sandwiches.

Champps had some of the best sandwiches in the city - a truly dynamite standard club! Their portions were large, but also tasty, and they easily could accommodate any special requests. We had rated them one of the top chains, and joined their frequent diner club (which offered wonderful deals every week). Unfortunately, although we would take friends there, we were usually one of maybe three tables in the place, and the location just did them in.
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Re: Seriously bad news for a Louisville Restaurant

by Steve P » Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:13 pm

Andrew Mellman wrote:
Champps had some of the best sandwiches in the city - a truly dynamite standard club! Their portions were large, but also tasty, and they easily could accommodate any special requests. We had rated them one of the top chains, and joined their frequent diner club (which offered wonderful deals every week). Unfortunately, although we would take friends there, we were usually one of maybe three tables in the place, and the location just did them in.


I would concur with all of the above, although I did witness some pretty good crowds there during football/roundball season last year. But yeah, that location simply sucks. Had they been more "visible" (or perhaps advertised more aggressively) I'm certain they would have been better received because the food and drink -were- pretty good.
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Re: Seriously bad news for a Louisville Restaurant

by Jeff Cavanaugh » Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:24 am

I'm kind of surprised any of those restaurants over there do well. Chuy's I can understand - they're decent food and already had a MASSIVE following among many Southwest transplants here. J Alexander's does great food, but it never seems to be busy when I'm there. I forget that BRAVO! is even over there. I'm not surprised F&H couldn't make it.
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Re: Seriously bad news for a Louisville Restaurant

by Ellen P » Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:42 pm

If there were easier access from the ramp, instead of the route behind Kohls. Also, will they ever put the connecting road under the Watterson? That would be great to reduce the traffic on Shelbyville road - especially since the two malls are owned by the same company.
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Re: Seriously bad news for a Louisville Restaurant

by Mark R. » Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:01 pm

Ellen P wrote:If there were easier access from the ramp, instead of the route behind Kohls. Also, will they ever put the connecting road under the Watterson?

Neither the user ever going to happen! Changing the ramp won't happen for several reasons including the cost and the fact that change would only help a private business segment. The connecting road under (or over) the Watterson also will probably never happen because the mall ownership wouldn't really gain anything by doing it and like above since it only would benefit the private businesses government is not going to get involved. Both of these projects would have ridiculously large price tags for a relatively small gain and will fail because of that, the same reason that the monorail concept between the 2 malls failed to materialize.
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Re: Seriously bad news for a Louisville Restaurant

by Kari L » Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:03 pm

I'm not sure I agree the malls would have nothing to gain. There are plenty of times when I am at one mall or the other, and would like to visit a store at the opposite mall, but the idea of taking the time to go down Shelbyville Rd to get there is unappealing. So they might get more people visiting both malls in one trip. This time of year especially it can take 30 minutes to get from one mall to the other.
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