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Charming, Loveable Hammerheads and Coals- A.K.A Dominoes

by Jim Zoeller » Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:42 pm

Okay, so I have eaten at both of these places recently, and decided to compile my review of them both into one so I don't come off as being unobjectively negative when I trash Coals.

My visit to Hammerheads was spurred by many compliments heard from well respected people whom I would not normally peg as frequenting a tiny basement bar with a hammerhead shark adorning the doorway. I had been given the impression that this place had that cozy neighborhood bar feel with the food turned way up.

Hammerheads completely delivered. Hubby and I sat at the bar, and were waited on by an engaging fellow who was literally working his toosh off, yet still offered perfectly competent input on the food and beer selection (which is very well balanced), along with just the right amount of dry humored, cynical remarks which really set the perfect tone for what i feel this place is going for.

Along with my porter and hubby's IPA, we had the hummus to start, along with the shrimp and grits, chicken and waffles, and a brownie to go. the chicken wing batter was perfectly flaky and well seasoned, the sweet/spicy shrimp and smoked cheddar grit cake (crispy on the outside, creamy in the middle) were bursting with very different flavors that melded ever so nicely together when combined. The adorable brownie that we took to go looked, in its saran wrapping, as if it had been bought from a church bake sale, and tasted just as homey- chewy, crunchiness on the edges and gooey tenderness on the inner. My only complaints were that the sweet potato waffle, though good in flavor, was so tough I nearly gave up on it ( I can only assume this is not the usual), and that the pita served with the hummus were seemingly microwaved (please take the time to grill them!). These flaws were so outweighed by the eclectic, charming crowd and atmosphere, that I hate to mention them.

SIGH......... Coals on the other hand..... I really feel let down that I was lured by incredibly unfounded gushing reviews of this place. Louisville is well stocked with first rate pizza joints that are the genuine article. It is true, however, that I have yet to encounter a first rate spot for artisinal, wood fired pizza. HOWEVER, Coals in no way fits the bill.We started with their so called arancini, which were the size of the size of olives instead of tennis balls (or golf balls at the very least), tasted like a frozen appetizer that could possibly be distributed by the "Hot Pockets" brand. Sauce that tasted of a can from Sams Club (which, when i requested a side of, was served to me ice cold), "fresh" mozzarella that must have been bottom rung because it was devoid of flavor,"caramelized" onions that would better be described as blanched, sausage that was barely apparent on the pizza and even less apparent on the palate. Frankly, I prefer Chuck E Cheese, and I seek out great pizza across the nation. The topper was that the atmosphere and service reminded me of a Fazoli's.

I have been getting the impression that certain people are sugar coating their reviews in effort to protect new business ventures. Louisville is now teeming with restaurants of all types. This city needs to have a resource for good, impartial, restaurant write ups, so that the bad can be quickly weeded out, close their doors, and make way for something worthwhile.
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Re: Charming, Loveable Hammerheads and Coals- A.K.A Dominoes

by Clay Cundiff » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:28 pm

To each their own, but I've really enjoyed the food at Coals the 3 times I have been there. I've sampled probably 3/4 of the different pizzas on the menu, and have not found any of them lacking in flavor. Last time I went, I actually thought the crust was even better than the first 2 times I ate there. Better char and perhaps a bit more salt in the dough than previously. I thought the arancini, which I remember as being roughly golf ball sized, were pretty good. I actually prefer them to be on the smaller side as this gives a better ratio of crispy crust to soft middle, which I think improves the texture. I've had some really large arancini, and usually end up not eating all of the insides. As far as the atmosphere and service go, either my experience was way different than yours, or you have been lucky enough to find the world's nicest Fazoli's.
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Re: Charming, Loveable Hammerheads and Coals- A.K.A Dominoes

by Mark R. » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:32 pm

Jim Zoeller wrote:I have been getting the impression that certain people are sugar coating their reviews in effort to protect new business ventures. Louisville is now teeming with restaurants of all types. This city needs to have a resource for good, impartial, restaurant write ups, so that the bad can be quickly weeded out, close their doors, and make way for something worthwhile.

Jim, I can assure you that you will not find any sugarcoated reviews here. Everyone is pretty straightforward and objective. You had a bad experience at Coals, fine that's not a problem but don't say that everyone who gave a positive review was wrong or not being honest. Many of us have had excellent experiences there and continue to do so. Most of this comes in very different backgrounds in our basis for comparison is very different. Case in point, if I saw a Arancini the size of a tennis ball I probably wouldn't be very excited about even tasting it.

There are certainly going to be reviews posted here that you don't agree with and I'm sure you're going to post reviews that others won't agree with. That's the way it is here and in most other forms. While you've been a member for quite awhile you certainly haven't been very active in posting your opinions of local restaurants. While there's certainly nothing wrong with that we don't have a very good basis to determine if our tastes align with yours. We certainly wouldn't suddenly call one of your reviews sugarcoated or biased just because we didn't agree with it!
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Re: Charming, Loveable Hammerheads and Coals- A.K.A Dominoes

by Jim Zoeller » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:49 pm

For the record, my wife posted under my name...I wouldn't comment on a man's toosh. With that said, I agree with her on the arancini, they were very small, and tasteless. And, yes, I also agree that many people are afraid to be critical of a local restaurant, but will gladly pile on a chain. For the record, I can't think of many chains I would every frequent, but have no problem being critical (bad or good) of a local.
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by BevP » Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:51 pm

I really don't think folks here sugar coat anything but as one to have been on the other side of things if you do have a bad thing to say be prepared to back up your opinions,,,nobody wants anyone's business hurt by someone who just speaks without giving thought to what those words might do.
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Re: Charming, Loveable Hammerheads and Coals- A.K.A Dominoes

by Brad Young » Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:11 am

Jim Zoeller (wife) wrote:
" And, yes, I also agree that many people are afraid to be critical of a local restaurant, but will gladly pile on a chain."

I have felt this also with "many" but certainly not most.

As for Coals I have been 3 times and have enjoyed the food each visit. My only issue was that the servers were frazzled and weeded on my last visit, making me feel a bit uncomfortable. The servers were scheduled way too many tables. I was delivered the wrong pizza, but when I brought it to our servers attention she told me it was the one I ordered ( I ordered the Thai Chicken and the one she gave me had ham on it instead of chicken). I ate it anyway, as it was really good and I did not want to complain or wait on a recook as they were already slammed and weeded. I still plan on going back for another shot as I felt this was an "off" night, maybe someone called off leaving them short staffed.

Service and food at Hammerheads has been great on every visit. My wife has ordered the Chicken and Waffles several times and the waffles have been wonderful each time.
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Re: Charming, Loveable Hammerheads and Coals- A.K.A Dominoes

by Ed Vermillion » Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:46 am

Yes, conspiracies abound on louisvillehotbytes :wink: . People's views, taste, acumen and delivery vary to such a great extent that individual style is apparent. But common amongst all the styles is the respect given to those that open and perform in what I consider the most challenging business arena out there. Does that mean others pull punches on their observations? While I can't answer that I will say, for the most part, people show a keen interest in seeing the local food scene grow and prosper. This board is a far cry from the wild west drive by days of yore. You are held accountable to the integrity of the group you belong to, as it should be. You've made your case that Coals is not to your liking. Many others (me included) love the food and atmosphere and the quirks inherent in producing a delicious hand made item with all the variables taken into account. Thanks for offering up your opinion. .


edited onced to remove the snarky last line. My apologies......must not post pre-caffeination. EV
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Re: Charming, Loveable Hammerheads and Coals- A.K.A Dominoes

by Madeline Peters » Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:41 am

Jim Zoeller wrote: I have yet to encounter a first rate spot for artisinal, wood fired pizza. HOWEVER, Coals in no way fits the bill.We started with their so called arancini, which were the size of the size of olives instead of tennis balls (or golf balls at the very least), tasted like a frozen appetizer that could possibly be distributed by the "Hot Pockets" brand. Sauce that tasted of a can from Sams Club (which, when i requested a side of, was served to me ice cold), "fresh" mozzarella that must have been bottom rung because it was devoid of flavor.


I am sorry you did not like our version of arancini. We would have been happy to exchange that appetizer for another. But as far as flavor is concerned I don't know what to tell you. I have never seen baseball sized arancini so we were going with something we were familiar with. The ingredients are simple in that we use arborio rice, panko, Grande brand fresh mozzarella, pancetta and a mixture of Stanislaus tomato products to create our sauce. Grande cheese and Stanislaus tomatoes are considered the gold standard for ingredients. I guarantee Chuckie Cheese and Domino steer clear of these very expensive options. So this could just be a matter of your preference in ingredients.

We feel proud of the products coming out of our kitchen. With that said we also know we can never be everything to everybody. So the fact you did not enjoy the experience at Coals is perfectly fine. What we accomplished was to bring another kind of pizza experience to Louisville. Many of our regular customers have told us time and time again that, finally, they are getting the kind of pizza that they had wanted and was not available before. In that way we are not in competition with the other fine pizzerias in this area. We just tapped into a segment that was craving a different pizza experience.

My real concern is service issues. No question we are busy, although things have calmed down, and the place is small and rather hectic on busy nights. We have a staff that is dedicated to the restaurant, loves the food and is part of the family. But we have had our hits on this issue. We continue to improve but it is a challenge for us.
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Re: Charming, Loveable Hammerheads and Coals- A.K.A Dominoes

by Shane Campbell » Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:43 am

Charming, Loveable Hammerheads and Coals- A.K.A Dominoes

Dave Barry and Saun Hannity could not have collaborated on a more humorously ridiculous title for a thread. Well maybe they could but this is pretty darn good. The writing is excellent as well and should serve as a model for future reviews. I am a bit confused though. :?

The review for the first restaurant validated all those glowing reviews for Hammerheads previously written on this forum (good). :D The second review exposed all those glowing reviews for Coals previously written on this forum as the submissions of those lying for self interest (uh oh). :shock: How do I know which reviews are real ones and which are not?

I really feel let down that I was lured by incredibly unfounded gushing reviews of this place.


I have been getting the impression that certain people are sugar coating their reviews in effort to protect new business ventures.


i happen to know for a fact that people on here sugar coat their local indie reviews on here. more than you are wiling to believe....


OK.....I propose that effective immediately JZ's wife and Annemarie inform us of which reviews on this forum are valid and which would be better served at Dominoes, Fazoli's, Chuck E Cheese etc. Seriously the poster's knowledge of Hot Pockets and Sams Club sauce as well as frequent references to restaurant standards lends great credibility to her opinion. Annemarie's well known reputation for insider knowledge and expert investigative skills is the perfect complement here. :wink:

Is this reply insulting? Of course it is! No mean spiritedness intended but I'm not sure the original poster can distinguish between an insult and a can of Sam's Club sauce. She called many reviewers here liars and Annemarie backed her right up. You two should meet at Sam's Club and go over your next response. I hear they have a good slice of pie!
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Re: Charming, Loveable Hammerheads and Coals- A.K.A Dominoes

by Bill P » Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:23 pm

Shane-
Just wait until "Dad" gets home. :P
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by Mark R. » Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:45 pm

Bill P wrote:Shane-
Just wait until "Dad" gets home. :P

I think Dad will have less to say about Shane's post than some of the others! :roll:
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by Robin Garr » Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:36 pm

Mark R. wrote:I think Dad will have less to say about Shane's post than some of the others! :roll:

Word. 8)
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Re: Charming, Loveable Hammerheads and Coals- A.K.A Dominoes

by Steve P » Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:32 pm

Interesting. I've (more or less) "reviewed" both establishments on the forum and came to the exact opposite conclusion. After two visits (the second visit just to confirm what I thought after the first visit) I've come to the conclusion that Hammerheads is just a flakey-hipster-dive-bar-that-serves-some-pretty-crappy-ribs (the rub is WAY too salty and the ribs are WAY over cooked). On the other hand after 10 or 12 visits, I'm STILL lovin' me some Coals.

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Re: Charming, Loveable Hammerheads and Coals- A.K.A Dominoes

by Derrick Dones » Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:39 pm

I couldn't disagree more with the OP's view of Coal's. No sugar-coating, I think Coal's has the best pizza in Louisville...I've been to Coal's nearly 10 times for lunch / dinner and I've probably tried 75% of the menu. IMO, from salads to apps to pizza and dessert (tiramisu) everything has been good to down-right wonderful. I will agree that service has flucuated during my visits...sometimes it is excellent service, other times it has been slightly spotty, but never poor enough to really irritate me. For what its worth, I also really like the pizza at Papalinos, Cafe Lou Lou, Johnny V's, Flanigan's, Clifton Pizza and mozzpi.

I sure hope the OP sticks with Fazzoli's and Chuck E Cheese...more Coal's for me. It seems like those places may suit his / her palate better.

annemarie m wrote:i happen to know for a fact that people on here sugar coat their local indie reviews on here. more than you are wiling to believe.....


annemarie, there you go again stating facts without backing them up. Please provide some proof, provenance, examples, etc of these sugarcoated posts. Until you can do that you're not dealing in facts...just hearsay.

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Re: Charming, Loveable Hammerheads and Coals- A.K.A Dominoes

by Derrick Dones » Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:41 pm

Steve P wrote:Interesting. I've (more or less) "reviewed" both establishments on the forum and came to the exact opposite conclusion. After two visits (the second visit just to confirm what I thought after the first visit) I've come to the conclusion that Hammerheads is just a flakey-hipster-dive-bar-that-serves-some-pretty-crappy-ribs (the rub is WAY too salty and the ribs are WAY over cooked). On the other hand after 10 or 12 visits, I'm STILL lovin' me some Coals.

Carry on.


Your biased though Steve...

I saw that the new Coal's menus now include the Steve P pie! :wink:

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