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Re: wendy's to roll out artisan breakfast here november -lou

by Terri Beam » Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:37 pm

Well, at first I scoffed at the word "artisan" as just another empty buzzword. Anything that involves more than a biscuit or an English muffin is "artisan"?

But I'm rather impressed. I could go for the sandwich and potatoes as shown. Frankly, they should serve those potatoes ALL day and not just breakfast. Those look much more appealing than french fries.
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Re: wendy's to roll out artisan breakfast here november -lou

by Brian Curl » Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:54 pm

What's the source for the Louisville rollout, link doesn't match subject?
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by Brian Curl » Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:13 pm

Sure that's great, it's just fairly common to name some type of source or where the info is coming from, when you click the link you expect info on the rollout here and you get some off the wall review...
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Re: wendy's to roll out artisan breakfast here november -lou

by Ellen P » Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:08 pm

Junior Bridgeman owns the Wendys, Chili's, and Fazzolis in this area and other locations. He had the Perkins restaurant that burned. We're fortunate that he made Louisville his home. What a success story.
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Re: wendy's to roll out artisan breakfast here november -lou

by MikeG » Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:49 pm

he needs to franchise Noodles & CO here.
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Re: wendy's to roll out artisan breakfast here november -lou

by Roger A. Baylor » Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:12 pm

Artisan.

Another word cheapened to meaningless by the Goebbelsian chain marketers.
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Re: wendy's to roll out artisan breakfast here november -lou

by Roger A. Baylor » Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:34 am

annemarie m wrote:this from your own web site. i see you have used the word artisanal. i guess what's good for the chains is now good for bankstreet?


Our use of the word in the web site context predates this instance of bastardization by a fast food chain. The same goes for any sensible rendering of the word "craft," prior to it being borrowed by the likes of Anheuser-Busch and used to describe Shock Top, as poured from a tap in Louisville Slugger Field, just adjacent to BBC, Browning's and Cumberland -- genuine craft beers.

Wendy's as artisan? I stick with my adjective. It's a big lie, Goebbels-style, although I must admit that he'd probably be flattered that a hamburger chain stole his notion of repeating the lie so often that it becomes regarded as truth.

By the way: Death to Chains. :D
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Re: wendy's to roll out artisan breakfast here november -lou

by James Natsis » Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:05 pm

Roger A. Baylor wrote:
annemarie m wrote:this from your own web site. i see you have used the word artisanal. i guess what's good for the chains is now good for bankstreet?


Our use of the word in the web site context predates this instance of bastardization by a fast food chain. The same goes for any sensible rendering of the word "craft," prior to it being borrowed by the likes of Anheuser-Busch and used to describe Shock Top, as poured from a tap in Louisville Slugger Field, just adjacent to BBC, Browning's and Cumberland -- genuine craft beers.

Wendy's as artisan? I stick with my adjective. It's a big lie, Goebbels-style, although I must admit that he'd probably be flattered that a hamburger chain stole his notion of repeating the lie so often that it becomes regarded as truth.

By the way: Death to Chains. :D


I was biting my tongue on this one. Thanks for stating the obvious.
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Re: wendy's to roll out artisan breakfast here november -lou

by Deb Hall » Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:19 pm

From Wiki:

What is artisan food?
Artisan foods are foods that are hand-crafted, typically in small batches, and made with high quality ingredients to create superior tasting products. 25 years ago, "Artisan foods" probably would have been called "gourmet foods".
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What+is+artisan+food

"Death to Chains" aside: I would agree strongly ( as a professional Maketing person) that the use of the word "Artisanal" with any mass-produced food at Wendy's is over-sell/hype. Could be high quality or great tasting, but not artisanal. And Bank Street is definitely artisanal in both what they do and how they do it.

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by Heather Y » Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:14 am

I know the meaning of Artisinal, can someone please translate the language that Roger is using?
What or who is a Goebbel and what does it have to do with Wendy's? Please pardon my ignorance.
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by JustinHammond » Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:21 am

Heather Y wrote: IWhat or who is a Goebbel and what does it have to do with Wendy's?


He was the dude in charge of the Nazi propaganda machine. Wendy's claiming to be artisan is simply propaganda.
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by David R. Pierce » Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:25 pm

Heather Y wrote:I know the meaning of Artisinal, can someone please translate the language that Roger is using?
What or who is a Goebbel and what does it have to do with Wendy's? Please pardon my ignorance.

Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Minister of Propaganda .
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by Heather Y » Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:23 pm

Oh MY! Wow, that's a little harsh eh?
I personally do not like using Holocaust comparison to "dog" our free enterprise system.
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Re: wendy's to roll out artisan breakfast here november -lou

by Dan E » Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:02 pm

Heather Y wrote:Oh MY! Wow, that's a little harsh eh?
I personally do not like using Holocaust comparison to "dog" our free enterprise system.



Agree.

I, personally, don't eat at Wendy's and prefer to eat at independent establishments. This is for a variety of reasons, the main one being food quality per my personal preference.

The other reasons are important as well, but I won't rehash them, because I don't feel that those who disagree are "wrong".

But anyway, I agree with Roger in the basic sentiment "I prefer to eat at local independent restaurants and avoid chains."

Now, I don't get offended easily, but at the same time, I certainly don't want to associate myself with the opinion that chain restaurants are the equivalent of Nazi Germany, and can certainly see why someone else (especially a Holocaust survivor) might take offense.

Roger has a way of taking a basic statement or sentiment with which I agree, and sensationalizing it, while condescending, mocking, and antagonizing those with opposing viewpoints, to the point that I am embarrassed that I agree with him so frequently

Then, I tend to shy away from all extremist views, be they political, religious, or economic. When dealing with that which is personal or philosophical, where nobody can truly be right or wrong, I feel that you do your cause more harm than good by maliciously attacking those who do not share your views.

For example, Roger believes that there are inherent problems with capitalism, which, again, I don't want to get into, but with which I agree. However I certainly prefer our system to others. Roger might disagree with me, and so will a lot of other people, and that is their right, and I won't look down on them. But then to use your opinion to extol the virtues of Che Guevera...again, I personally don't care, but there are a lot of Cuban immigrants who might be offended

I like good beer as well, and I never purchase "macroswill" either, but at the same time, people can drink whatever they want, and I certainly don't think i'm superior to my buddies who drink miller lite, and if someone offers me one or 6 on a hot day and there's nothing else around...

Not meant to be a personal attack on Roger. I am a big fan of Hoptimus and have found myself ordering multiple Electors with dinner lately. I also really enjoy the calzone's down at Rich-os.(Sausage Onion Garlic Spinach pepperoni italian sausage)

And I even think I agree with the basic points I think he is trying to convey. I am just off-put by his delivery and extremist viewpoints.

Although I suppose one could say it is cowardly to sit in the middle and ride the fence or tone down your opinions....again, it's their right to say that.
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Re: wendy's to roll out artisan breakfast here november -lou

by JustinHammond » Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:03 pm

Dan E wrote:
Now, I don't get offended easily, but at the same time, I certainly don't want to associate myself with the opinion that chain restaurants are the equivalent of Nazi Germany, and can certainly see why someone else (especially a Holocaust survivor) might take offense.


.I really don't think that is what Roger was saying. Goebbel's theory can be simplified to the statement, "repeat a lie thousand times, it becomes a truth, which is what chains often do. With the constant barrage of advertising telling us Wendy's is producing an artisan product, the truth gets blurry very fast. How long will it be before someone is asking, "did you try the new artisan breakfast at Wendy’s?”, when in reality there is nothing artisan about it.
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